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Will God Destroy America because of Gay People

November 9, 2012

 

This man seems to think so.  He likes to use the example of Sodom and Gamora for his extreme right wing Christian views.  He started Focus on the Family, if he is gonna  be a preacher he should stick to preaching and Focus on the Facts.  He is trying to bring his Biblical beliefs into the political arena.  This extreme right wing thinking is not scriptural.

Television evangelist Pat Robertson responded to New York’s decision to legalize same sex marriage by warning Monday that the result would be America’s destruction.

“I think we need to remember the term sodomy came from a town known as Sodom and Sodom was destroyed by God Almighty and the thing that they practiced was homosexual activity and even they tried to rape angels who came down there, so that’s the kind of people they were,” Robertson said. God “sent an angel down there and He said to Lot and his family, ‘get out now because I’m gonna destroy this whole area.’”

“We’re heading that way as a nation. In history there’s never been a ci32vilization ever in history that has embraced homosexuality and turned away from traditional fidelity, traditional marriage, traditional child-rearing, and has survived. There isn’t one single civilization that has survived that openly embraced homosexuality. So you say, ‘what’s going to happen to America?” Well if history is any guide, the same thing’s going to happen to us,’” he predicted.

Robertson also admitted that Jesus “didn’t say anything about the homosexuality.”

I am a 54 year old white male and graduated from a prominent Christian University in the south.  I am a Christian and Jesus Christ is my personal savior.  I believe in the infilling of the Holy Spirit.  I am not homosexual and I dont care if someone is.  I accept them as a child of God and love them as a child of God.

I believe in the SEPARATION of church and state.  I think that as a nation when we start taking away the right of people to be who they are or who they want to be—then we as Christians will loose our rights too. Gov. needs to stay out of who people are or what they believe .  If Gov gets the right to influence that, then they will have the right to influence the Christian Church.

I don’t think gays in the military or Gay Marriage is that big a deal.  And I dont believe God is going to destroy the United States because of Gay people.   Extreme right wing Christians like to use the argument of Sodom and Gamora as their extreme right wing example.  They like to say God destroyed Sodom and Gamora because of Gay people.  But this is just not the truth.  Christians need to read the Bible and not take some right wing Christian preachers take on the subject.   Sure, Gay people were a large population in Sodom and Gamora, but this isn’t the reason God destroyed Sodom and Gamora, its just not scriptural.  God destroyed Sodom and Gamora because there were zero righteous people in the town.  Abraham interceded for the town and God said he would not destroy Sodom and Gamora if there were 10 righteous people in the town.  Genesis 18:22-32.   I’m sure there are more than 10 righteous people in the United States.
Gen 18:22The men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the LORD. 
Gen 18:23Then Abraham approached him and said: “Will you sweep away the righteous with the wicked?
Gen 18:24What if there are fifty righteous people in the city? Will you really sweep it away and not spare the place for the sake of the fifty righteous people in it?
Gen 18:25Far be it from you to do such a thing–to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”
Gen 18:26The LORD said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”
Gen 18:27Then Abraham spoke up again: “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes,
Gen 18:28what if the number of the righteous is five less than fifty? Will you destroy the whole city because of five people?” “If I find forty-five there,” he said, “I will not destroy it.”
Gen 18:29Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?” He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”
Gen 18:30Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?” He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”
Gen 18:31Abraham said, “Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, what if only twenty can be found there?” He said, “For the sake of twenty, I will not destroy it.”
Gen 18:32Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?” He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”
God said he wouldn’t destroy Sodom if there were 10 righteous people in the town, Abraham also said “are you gonna treat the righteous as the wicked , far be it from you.  Will not the judge of heaven and earth do what is right ?  Sodom and gamora had zero righteous people in the town, they were all wicked—-thats why it was destroyed.  There is no  scriptual basis that God will destroy the US because of some gay people.  Gay people have been around for a long time in history.  If what extreem right wing Christians are saying is right —-the world would have been destroyed a long time ago.   I am sure there are more than 10 righteous people in the US and in the Military.  Will God treat the righteous as the wicked??  If anything, scripture says that God will  spare the wicked because of the righteous.  Ezekiel 16:48-50 gives us a glimpse of some of the sin in Sodom.

Eze 16:48-50, God’s word tells us the sins and wickedness of Sodom and Gamora.

Eze 16:48 As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done.

Eze 16:49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

Eze 16:50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

“Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned: they did not help the poor and the needy”.  Sure there was homosexuality in Sodom, but there was also, arrogance, overfed and unconcerned people and they did not help the poor and the needy.

Arrogance

overfed

unconcerned

They will not help the poor and needy.

I know the story of Sodom and Gamora talks about how Angels came down to the city and people of the city wanted “to be with” the Angels.  This part of the story makes for good preaching and stirs up extreme right wing Christians.  Preachers that are wanna be politicians use stuff like this to gain a base.  The Bible says the sins of Sodom and Gamora were arrogance, overfed, unconcerned and the wouldn’t help the poor and needy.  Extreme right wing Christians wont like what I am saying—but its what the Bible says.  Maybe if extreme right wing Christians read the Bible and not listen to some preachers take on something, they might find the verses that talk about “Love thy neighbor as thyself”

Phl 2:12  Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.  The Bible is telling us as Christians to work out our own salvation, its not saying work out your own salvation and the salvation of your neighbor.

Lev 19:18 “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

Matthew 19:19, Matthew 22:39, Mark 12:31, Luke 10:27, Romans 13:9, Galations 5:14, James 2:8 :  All verses that command us as Christians to love thy neighbor as thyself.  Why do extreme right wing Christians feel compelled to impose their beliefs on other people?   

Zec 8:17 Don’t scheme against each other. Stop your love of telling lies that you swear are the truth. I hate all these things, says the LORD.”

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